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发表于 2010-2-8 14:19 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Mongolian (Wells et al. 2001):
1/24 = 4% D-M174
3/24 = 12.5% C-M130(xC3c-M48)
11/24 = 46% C3c-M48
2/24 = 8% F-M89(xI-M170, J2-M172, H1-M52, K-M9)
3/24 = 12.5% K-M9(xO-M175, L-M20, N1c-M46, P-M45)
2/24 = 8% O3-M122
1/24 = 4% O1a-M119
1/24 = 4% R1a1-M17(xM87)

Inner Mongolian (Xue et al. 2006):
2/45 = 4.4% Y*(xA, C, DE, J, K)
17/45 = 37.8% C3-M217(xC3c-M48)
4/45 = 8.9% C3c-M48
2/45 = 4.4% K-M9(xNO-M214, P-92R7)
6/45 = 13.3% N1c1-M178
1/45 = 2.2% O2*-P31(xO2a-M95, O2b-SRY+465)
3/45 = 6.7% O3*-M122
2/45 = 4.4% O3-M122+LY1(xM159, M7)
3/45 = 6.7% O3a3c-M134(xO3a3c1-M117)
5/45 = 11.1% O3a3c1-M117

Outer Mongolian (Xue et al. 2006):
2/65 = 3.1% Y*(xA, C, DE, J, K)
22/65 = 33.8% C3-M217(xC3c-M48)
13/65 = 20.0% C3c-M48
1/65 = 1.5% DE-YAP(xE-SRY4064)
2/65 = 3.1% J-12f2
1/65 = 1.5% K-M9(xNO-M214, P-92R7)
2/65 = 3.1% N1b-P43
1/65 = 1.5% N1c*-Tat(xN1c1-M178)
4/65 = 6.2% N1c1-M178
1/65 = 1.5% O2*-P31(xO2a-M95, O2b-SRY+465)
2/65 = 3.1% O3*-M122
1/65 = 1.5% O3-M122+LY1(xM159, M7)
1/65 = 1.5% O3a3c-M134(xO3a3c1-M117)
3/65 = 4.6% O3a3c1-M117
3/65 = 4.6% P-92R7(xR1a-SRY10831.2)
6/65 = 9.2% R1a-SRY10831.2

Mongolia (Hammer et al. 2005):
51/149 = 34.2% C3-M217(xC3c-M86)
27/149 = 18.1% C3c-M86
2/149 = 1.3% D1-M15
2/149 = 1.3% D3a-P47
1/149 = 0.7% G-M201
1/149 = 0.7% H-M69
4/149 = 2.7% J-12f2
1/149 = 0.7% NO-M214(xN1-LLY22g, O-M175)
9/149 = 6.0% N1b-P43
3/149 = 2.0% N1c1-M178
1/149 = 0.7% O-M175(xO1a-M119, O2-P31, O3-M122)
4/149 = 2.7% O3-M122(xO3a3c-M134, O3/-LINE1)
24/149 = 16.1% O3a3c-M134
6/149 = 4.0% O3/-LINE1
1/149 = 0.7% O1a-M119(xO1a2-M110)
2/149 = 1.3% O2*-P31(xO2a-M95, O2b-SRY465)
4/149 = 2.7% Q1-P36
6/149 = 4.0% R-M207

Kalmykians (Nasidze et al. 2005):
1/99 = 1% DE-YAP
24/99 = 24% C-RPS4Y(xC3c-M48)
37/99 = 37% C3c-M48
13/99 = 13% K-M9(xN1c-M46, P-M45)
1/99 = 1% N1c-M46
6/99 = 6% R2-M124
11/99 = 11% P-M45(xR1-M173, R2-M124)
5/99 = 5% F-M89(xG-M201, J2-M172, I-M170, K-M9)
1/99 = 1% G-M201

Khalkh (Katoh et al. 2004):
35/85 = 41.2% C(xC3c)
13/85 = 15.3% C3c
3/85 = 3.5% D
2/85 = 2.4% F(xJ, K)
2/85 = 2.4% J
3/85 = 3.5% K(xN1c, O, P)
4/85 = 4.7% N1c
16/85 = 18.8% O3
4/85 = 4.7% P(xR1a)
3/85 = 3.5% R1a1

Uriankhai (Katoh et al. 2004):
15/60 = 25.0% C(xC3c)
20/60 = 33.3% C3c
1/60 = 1.7% D
3/60 = 5.0% K(xN1c, O, P)
5/60 = 8.3% N1c
3/60 = 5.0% O2b
4/60 = 6.7% O3
5/60 = 8.3% P(xR1a)
4/60 = 6.7% R1a1

Zakhchin (Katoh et al. 2004):
10/60 = 16.7% C(xC3c)
18/60 = 30.0% C3c
2/60 = 3.3% D
1/60 = 1.7% F(xJ, K)
1/60 = 1.7% J
3/60 = 5.0% K(xN1c, O, P)
2/60 = 3.3% N1c
5/60 = 8.3% O(xO1, O2b, O3)
2/60 = 3.3% O2b
5/60 = 8.3% O3
3/60 = 5.0% P(xR1a)
8/60 = 13.3% R1a1

Khoton (Katoh et al. 2004):
4/40 = 10.0% C3c
2/40 = 5.0% J
1/40 = 2.5% O3
33/40 = 82.5% R1a1

Buryats (Karafet et al. 2002 via Tambets et al. 2004 and Hammer et al. 2005):
45/81 = 55.6% C3-M217(xC3c-M86)
4/81 = 4.9% C3c-M86
1/81 = 1.2% G-M201
1/81 = 1.2% J-12f2
23/81 = 28.4% N1c1
2/81 = 2.5% N1b
2/81 = 2.5% O3/-LINE1
1/81 = 1.2% R1b (or possibly R1-M173(xR1a-SRY1532))
1/81 = 1.2% R1a
1/81 = 1.2% R-M207(xR1a, R1b) (or possibly R-M207(xR1-M173))

Daur (Xue et al. 2006):
2/39 = 5.1% Y*(xA, C, DE, J, K)
11/39 = 28.2% C3-M217(xC3c-M48)
1/39 = 2.6% C3c-M48
1/39 = 2.6% NO-M214(xN1-LLY22g, O-M175)
3/39 = 7.7% N1c1-M178
1/39 = 2.6% O-M175(xO1a-M119, O2-P31, O3-M122)
2/39 = 5.1% O1a-M119
1/39 = 2.6% O2*-P31(xO2a-M95, O2b-SRY+465)
6/39 = 15.4% O2a-M95(xO2a1-M88)
1/39 = 2.6% O2b*-SRY+465(xO2b1-47z)
1/39 = 2.6% O3*-M122
6/39 = 15.4% O3-M122+LY1(xM159, M7)
3/39 = 7.7% O3a3c1-M117

West Evens(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
1/22 = 4.5% C3c-M86
20/22 = 90.9%  N-Tat
1/22 = 4.5% N-P43

Central Evens(Brigitte et al. & Karafet et al. 2007)
1/24 = 4.2% C3-M217
12/24 = 50% C3c-M86
2/24 = 8.3% N-Tat
9/24 = 37.5% N-P43


East Evens(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
4/31 = 12.9% C3-M217
19/31 = 61.3% C3c-M86
4/31 = 12.9% N-Tat
4/31 = 12.9% other

Stony Tunguska Evenks(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
28/40 = 70% C3c-M86
1/40 = 2.5% F-M89
11/44 = 27.5% N-P43

Lengra Evenks(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
2/9 = 22.2% C3c-M48
4/9 = 44.44% C3c-M86
1/9 = 11.1% K-M9
2/9 = 22.2% N-Tat

Nyukzha Evenks(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
13/78 = 16.7% C3-M217
42/78 = 53.8% C3c-M86
1/78 = 1.3% F-M89
1/78 = 1.3% J-M172
16/78 = 20.5% N-Tat
5/78 = 6.4% other

Yakut speaking Evenks(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
1/33 = 3% C3-M217
4/33 = 12.1% C3c-M86
24/33 = 72.7%  N-Tat
2/33 = 6.1% N-P43
2/33 = 6.1% R1a-M17

Yakuts(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
3/184 = 1.6% C3-M217
1/184 = 0.5% C3c-M86
1/184 = 0.5% J-M172
173/184 = 94% N-Tat
1/184 = 0.5% R-M17
1/184 = 0.5% Q-P36
4/184 = 2.2% R1a-M17

Yukaghirs(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
1/13 = 7.7% C3-M217
1/13 = 7.7%  C3c-M48
2/13 = 15.4% C3c-M86
1/13 = 7.7% F-M89
4/13 = 30.8%  N-Tat
4/13 = 30.8% Q-P36

Koryaks(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
4/12 = 33.3%  C3-M217
4/12 = 33.3%  N-Tat
1/12 = 8.3%  O-M122
1/12 = 16.7%  Q-P36
1/12 = 8.3%  other

Tuvans(Brigitte et al & Karafet et al. 2007)
3/55 = 5.5% C3-M217
5/55 = 9.1% C3c-M86
1/55 = 1.8%  N-LLY22g
5/55 = 9.1% N-Tat
15/55 = 27.3% Q-P36
1/55 = 1.8%  O-M122
9/55 = 16.4%  Q-P36
4/55 = 7.3%  R-M173
12/55 = 21.8% R1a-M17

Tuvans(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
3/40 = 7.5%  R1a-M17
6/40 = 15%  P-M45
7/40 = 17.5% N-Tat
11/40 = 27.5% N-7C
1/40 = 2.5% D-YAP
4/40 = 10% C-RPS4Y-T
8/40 = 20% C3c-M48

Tofalar(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
1/19 = 5.3% R1a-M17
9/19 = 47.4%  N-Tat
7/19 = 36.8%  N-7C
2/19 = 10.5% C-RPS4Y-T

Buryatian(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
3/13 = 23.1% N-Tat
2/13 = 15.4% N-7C
6/13 = 46.1% O1a-M119
1/13 = 7.7% F-M89
1/13 = 7.7% C3c-M48

Yenisey Evenk(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
3/31 = 9.7%  R1a-M17
3/31 = 9.7%  N-Tat
6/31 = 19.3% N-7C
1/31 = 3.2%  O1a-M119
18/31 = 58.1% C3c-M48

Okhotsk Evenk(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
6/16 = 37.5%  N-Tat
10/16 = 62.5%  C3c-M48

Ulchi/Nanai(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
2/53 = 3.8%  P-M45
5/53 = 9.4%  N-Tat
2/53 = 3.8%  O1a-M119
8/53 = 15.1%  K-M9
10/53 = 18.9% C(XC3c-M48)
19/53 = 35.8% C3c-M48
2/53 = 1.9%  others of C3?

Upriver Negidal(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
10/10 = 100% C3c-M48

Downriver Negidal(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
total: 7:
60%   N-Tat
20%   C-RPS4Y-T
10%  C3c-M48
10%  others of C3?

Udegey(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
1/20 = 5%  R1a-M17
2/20 = 10%  P-M45
5/20 = 25%  K-M9
12/20 = 60%  C3c-M48

Nivkh(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
6/17 = 35.3%  P-M45
1/17 = 5.9% O1a-M119
2/17 = 11.8%  K-M9
2/17 = 11.8%  C-RPS4Y-T
6/17 = 35.3%  C3c-M48

Koryak(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
5/27 = 18.5%  P-M45
6/27 = 22.2%  N-Tat
7/27 = 25.9%  C-RPS4Y-T
9/27 = 33.3%  C3c-M48

Itel'man(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
4/18 = 22.2%  R1a-M17
2/18 = 11.1%  N-Tat
5/18 = 27.8%  C-RPS4Y-T
7/18 = 38.9%  C3c-M48

Chukchi(Jeffrey et al, 2001)
3/24 = 12.5%  Q1a3a-M3
1/24 = 4.2%  R1a-M17
5/24 = 20.8%  P-M45
14/24 = 58.3%  N-Tat
1/24 = 4.2% C3c-M48

to be continued~

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发表于 2010-2-9 07:53 | 显示全部楼层
好,收下了。
发表于 2010-2-9 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 广府佬 于 2010-2-9 11:02 编辑

Koryak似乎没有朝鲜人的O2b噢。Yakut人虽然也是大面盘,但他们是N系,跟芬兰人一伙。刚看了看维基,原来西伯利亚的ket人具有极高的Q。相片上的ket人看起来就是北亚人种。Q的祖先P在东南欧的 克罗地亚 也找到了。

如此看来,种族长相与Ydna似乎没啥关系?
发表于 2010-2-9 11:47 | 显示全部楼层
上次那位傅大侠就是C系的。不知道这次测试发现了多少C系弟兄?
根据过去文波的数据,华东地区有不少C啊:
山东 18/185
江苏  6/100
浙江  10/106
上海   4/155
安徽   3/22

基本上接近10%了,这次测试出来是C的弟兄怎么也超过20位了吧?
 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-9 11:53 | 显示全部楼层
Koryak似乎没有朝鲜人的O2b噢。Yakut人虽然也是大面盘,但他们是N系,跟芬兰人一伙。刚看了看维基,原来西伯利亚的ket人具有极高的Q。相片上的ket人看起来就是北亚人种。Q的祖先P在东南欧的 克罗地亚 也找到了。

...
广府佬 发表于 2010-2-9 10:59


标记父系社会以来的人群迁徙可以,但对探讨人群血统结构没什么太大的帮助,血统结构还是要看常染色体和X染色体方面的成分分析。
发表于 2010-2-23 18:25 | 显示全部楼层
上次那位傅大侠就是C系的。不知道这次测试发现了多少C系弟兄?
根据过去文波的数据,华东地区有不少C啊:
山东 18/185
江苏  6/100
浙江  10/106
上海   4/155
安徽   3/22

基本上接近10%了,这次测试出来是 ...
DONGZHOU 发表于 2010-2-9 11:47

当年元朝清朝的时候肯定有不少C遗留到民间,就拿蒙古族来说吧,元朝溃灭后,留在中国的蒙古族都汉化成为汉族的一部分。
发表于 2010-2-23 18:41 | 显示全部楼层
6# 大雪无痕


按照当时蒙古与汉人的人口比,不会有这么大的比重。
 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-24 00:52 | 显示全部楼层
看这篇新文献:
http://konglong.5d6d.com/thread-7916-1-1.html
Y-dna,值得一提的是C3c测的是M86,而不是通常测的M48,前者的共祖年代大约在4000+,而后者大多在1万年前后,而这样看来,C3c里边其实也主要都是M86+和M48+,很少M48+&M86-,这暗示C3c的扩张事实上只是在4000年以后发生的,甚至可能在更近期的历史时期内。




但蒙古的数据肯定有问题,上边有文献测过蒙古的M86,是18%+,所以这里的C*肯定包含着高比例的M86。
发表于 2010-2-24 14:15 | 显示全部楼层
8# joy


那是啥原因造成的?难道是自然进化造成的?
发表于 2010-3-3 11:26 | 显示全部楼层
北亚族群的N几乎全是N2(N1b)与N3(N1c),N*-LLY22g及N1-M128罕见,是这样吗?N-7C是什么?
N*-LLY22g及N1-M128算不算东亚(不包北亚)特有?
 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-4 11:26 | 显示全部楼层
北亚族群的N几乎全是N2(N1b)与N3(N1c),N*-LLY22g及N1-M128罕见,是这样吗?N-7C是什么?
N*-LLY22g及N1-M128算不算东亚(不包北亚)特有?
隆攀gdzq 发表于 2010-3-3 11:26


没有测下游的snp位点。
 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-4 11:28 | 显示全部楼层
每次测C3c-M48
差距都很大。仅以多次出现的蒙古人来说,差距从46%---8.9%,是样本少还是怎么加事?
qjlkgong1 发表于 2010-3-3 12:40


要看地区和样本数量,哈拉哈蒙古20%上下,内蒙古(呼伦贝尔)不足10%,卡尔梅克30-40%。
发表于 2010-3-4 11:29 | 显示全部楼层
没有测下游的snp位点。
Yungsiyebu 发表于 2010-3-4 11:26

是指N-7C吗?
发表于 2010-3-4 12:41 | 显示全部楼层
北亚族群的N几乎全是N2(N1b)与N3(N1c),N*-LLY22g及N1-M128罕见,是这样吗?N-7C是什么?
N*-LLY22g及N1-M128算不算东亚(不包北亚)特有?
隆攀gdzq 发表于 2010-3-3 11:26

Y-DNA haplogroup N is found throughout Northern Eurasia. Possible points of origin include Northern China and Mongolia, from which the population spread both toward the Baltic region and into Siberia. The dominant N1c branch is found widely distributed in Siberia and in northern Europe. At its western extent, the greatest concentration is found among Finns, Latvians and Lithuanians. The N1b branch, whose geography is largely contained within the larger N1c range, shows two clusters, one in the Ural-Volga area and the other further east. The less common N1a lineage shows a scattered distribution in Asia, with small concentrations in areas of Kazakhstan, Korea and China. The undifferentiated N1* population is widely distributed at low levels of occurrence with a weak concentration in Cambodia and southern China. Haplogroup N has also been found at very low concentration in eastern Europe and in Anatolia.

http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpN.html
发表于 2010-3-4 12:46 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 natsuya 于 2010-3-4 12:48 编辑

有關N起源和遷徙的文獻:

A counter-clockwise northern route of the Y-chromosome
haplogroup N from Southeast Asia towards Europe

P.S. 論文第三頁有N下游類型的分佈頻率圖, 使用的是舊命名法

http://volgagermanbrit.us/documents/Rootsi_et_al.pdf
发表于 2010-3-4 13:10 | 显示全部楼层
是指N-7C吗?
隆攀gdzq 发表于 2010-3-4 11:29

那個是DYS7C deletion, 現在系統樹已經不用這個位點, 因為它在C和N下游類型都有發現, 不知道是不是和LINE1的狀況很像, 可能要問問蘭海或多面體, 永謝布知道這個問題嗎?
发表于 2010-3-5 17:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 隆攀gdzq 于 2010-3-5 17:36 编辑
Y-DNA haplogroup N is found throughout Northern Eurasia. Possible points of origin include Northern China and Mongolia, from which the population spread both toward the Baltic region and into Siberi ...
natsuya 发表于 2010-3-4 12:41

满族与锡伯族也有N1-M128,或者与当中的O3有关?但满族未见Q1,不知能否说明满族的O3是早期成员?

因为东北满族等当中混有O2b,他们与O系的关系应在大约1万年前已经开始。O3进入东北应不只是几千年来的事。
发表于 2018-10-30 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
目前M86西支F6170的两个分支已经很清晰了,一支哈萨克,蒙古,俄罗斯以及中亚和西亚。一支在国内陕西山西内蒙甘肃山东。西支爆发时间很晚,按YFUL时间是在3000年,而西支的南支爆发时间在2600年,北支爆发时间更晚在2000年左右
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